PDF files can get pretty big even with straight text and a few images. Perhaps if the PDF files were distributed via CD-R it would be better. a CD-R cost about $2 USD each and about another 2 or 3 bucks for shipping. I have a cd burner. does anybody else have or access to a burner and can make PDF files? If i got a copy of the manuals, i could type them out, PDF and burn them. then mail them for just the cost of the cd and shipping. Maybe even send a copy to the Kind folk at the USGS station that gave away the sensors so they can copy and distribute for the other people that got a sensor. ~Travis >From: "Charles R. Patton">Reply-To: psn-l@.............. >To: psn-l@.............. >Subject: Re: PDFing KS36000 manuals >Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:54:02 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.100.224.130] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBCD689E7005E40042A09D864E08210510; Thu May 24 10:03:40 2001 >Received: from mail1.pe.net (unverified [64.38.64.6]) by >sys5.webtronics.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id > for ; Thu, 24 May >2001 09:54:47 -0700 >Received: from ieee.org (IP-87-041.tem.pe.net [64.38.87.41])by mail1.pe.net >(8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4OGrFu10249for ; Thu, >24 May 2001 09:53:15 -0700 (PDT) >From larry_cochrane@.............. Thu May 24 10:05:17 2001 >Message-ID: <3B0D3CAA.5F000F25@........> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) >X-Accept-Language: en,pdf >References: ><158246966.990618985@......................> >Sender: psn-l-request@.............. > >Karl Cunningham wrote: > > I think the major drawback is the number of bytes created and the labor > > involved. ... I don't think putting them into a PDF > > is practical. > >I can confirm this. If you PDF'd a scan without first converting to text >it would be larger. On a quick test I just did, a page from a technical >journal with text and line drawings scanned at 200 dpi (marginally >better than a fax), and PDF'd at 600 dpi, was 278 KB. If I JPG'd the >page at 90%, I got 1239 KB. A Publisher page I had with text, boxes, >and line drawings from PPT, took only 86 KB at 600 dpi. The Publisher >page looked perfect in the PDF while the scanned page had visible >artifacts. It took about ― a minute just to scan the page. > >I use OCR (OmniPage Pro 10) all the time for a newsletter we do. The >OmniPage software is fairly current state-of-the-art. And unless the >original copy is absolutely flawless -- i.e., not a third generation >Xerox with broken letters, smeared background, out-of-focus sections, >etc., it can be easier to just re-type the copy than go through and edit >the OCR version. For instance, much of the input we get comes as faxes, >and about 50% of the time I just re-type rather than OCR due to the poor >recognition and high error rate. And I hasten to say, that even with >perfect (originals) copy, it's still maybe only 98% correct. That >translates to a 100% certainty that you'll have to perform edits on >every page. As Karl mentioned, attempting to OCR with mixed text and >pictures would be absolutely laborious. Omnipage can pick up the >indentatations, but then the pictures would have to be separately >inserted in an editing program such as Word or Publisher. I would not >be up for converting the manuals. > >At best, scanning and direct conversion to PDF would take a huge amount >of time and require lots of disk space. I know I would not be up to it. > >Charles R. Patton >__________________________________________________________ > >Public Seismic Network Mailing List (PSN-L) > >To leave this list email PSN-L-REQUEST@.............. with >the body of the message (first line only): unsubscribe >See http://www.seismicnet.com/maillist.html for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com __________________________________________________________ Public Seismic Network Mailing List (PSN-L)
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