All this talk about precision matching and ambient light, spectral response, etc., seems crazy. If you really must use a photographic system (without film on a drum) why take a lesson from some age-old aeronautical techiniqes. VOR. You could put a cheap linear filament bulb (like fish tank bulbs) inside a rotating can with a vertical slit (aligned with the bulb filament). Put one photocell close to the can for a reference signal. As the can rotates you get a timing pulse... Now you mount one long skinny mirror on the side of your boom, and another to the base a few inches away and parallel (so the mirrors are opposing each other). Mount your second photocell "aimed" into one end of this "angular amplification channel" at about 45 deg, and the rotating source similarly at the other end. As the boom moves it causes the phase angle between the reference pulse and the detector pulse to change, and the rest is all down hill. You simply need some circuitry to clean up the pulses, and thare are many ways you can detect the phase changes. The nice thing about this method is that ambient light and photo detector response curves don't matter. Choosing the right RPM and motor to give stable response would be the biggest challenge. Just an idea... Tom On Mon, 28 May 2001 22:40:47 -0700 "meredith lamb"writes: Hi Chris, and all, Wow!....thanks for the references and all the very patient help. The Centronic units I have, do have all the characteristics you advise against....ha...even to the blue enhancement. They are round cans, and look to be filled with some clear substance that even encases the photovoltiacs themselves...they can't be salvaged for use...I've already tried that. The web address is: http://www.centronic.co.uk ChrisAtUpw@....... wrote: Allied at http://www.alliedelec.com/default.asp p563 & 565 have quite a few suitable products with planar technology. I use BPW34's which are similar to the VTD34 980 0150 @ $1.69 that George Harris recommended. I bought several cells and found that they all matched to a few %. Yes indeed this all helps....actually it all decidedly enhances the pursuit of opto-electronics for overall amateur seismology in my opinion. Some things were a surprise in their discussion, use and even the extraordinary logical selection of such. For my current use, I have to use this approach; as its for a diamagnetic levitated spectoscopic graphite rod used as a tiltmeter/seismometer. I'am convinced I need to scrap some previous electronic parts, and get some better material....the results will likely be much more accurate in the overall evaluation experiment, than what I could dredge up alone...ha. Many thanks to all, Meredith Lamb All this talk about precision matching and ambient light,spectral response, etc., seems crazy. If you really must usea photographic system (without film on a drum) why takea lesson from some age-old aeronautical techiniqes. VOR.You could put a cheap linear filament bulb (like fish tankbulbs) inside a rotating can with a vertical slit (aligned withthe bulb filament). Put one photocell close to the can fora reference signal. As the can rotates you get a timingpulse... Now you mount one long skinny mirror on theside of your boom, and another to the base a few inchesaway and parallel (so the mirrors are opposing each other).Mount your second photocell "aimed" into one end of this"angular amplification channel" at about 45 deg, and therotating source similarly at the other end. As the boom movesit causes the phase angle between the reference pulse andthe detector pulse to change, and the rest is all down hill.You simply need some circuitry to clean up the pulses, andthare are many ways you can detect the phase changes. Thenice thing about this method is that ambient light and photodetector response curves don't matter. Choosing the rightRPM and motor to give stable response would be thebiggest challenge.Just an idea...TomOn Mon, 28 May 2001 22:40:47 -0700 "meredith lamb" <mlamb1@.........> writes:Hi Chris, and all,Wow!....thanks for the references and all the very patient help. = The=20
Centronic units I have, do have all the characteristics you advise=20
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bought several cells = and found=20 that they all matched to a few %.Yes indeed this all=20 helps....actually it all decidedly enhances the pursuit
of=20 opto-electronics for overall amateur seismology in my opinion.
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extraordinary=20 logical selection of such. For my current use, I have to
use = this=20 approach; as its for a diamagnetic levitated spectoscopic graphite
= rod=20 used as a tiltmeter/seismometer. I'am convinced I need to scrap
some=20 previous electronic parts, and get some better material....the results=20
will likely be much more accurate in the overall evaluation = experiment,=20
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