I have no calculations. About ten years ago I erected a very efficient solar collector to pre-heat my well water. Among other things, it tracked the Sun in order to maximize the yield. I built a photo-cell / optical system to do so with much experimentation, but ran into the challenge of the diffusion caused by overcast days, non-linear cell response and so forth. So then I added a "jog" cycle that would just reset the collector to due east every morning and then drive it westward for a few seconds every so-many minutes, and that would keep the dual photo-cell detector close to target. This worked fairly well until a thunderstorm took out the photo-cell amplifier that was located up on the collector, at which point I realized that the jog-cycle method alone was equally good and far less trouble. That's the last time I used photo-cells to detect anything. The method I speculated earlier today was off the top of my head. But it does make sense to see if the numbers agree with my instinct. A modest attempt follows: It seems reasonable that the "angular amplifier" I described using two opposed mirrors that move slightly off parallel should work and, if you were spinning the slit at around 30 revs per second any noise and instability would be effectively averaged out for any but the shortest period instruments. And, depending upon how many times you bounce the path between the mirrors it seems reasonable that you should get a amplification of angular displacement of the boom by at least an order of magnitude, meaning that the .01 arc/sec requirement becomes .1 arc/sec. This could also be expressed as about 1/200,000 of a revolution and would occur in about 160 nanoseconds in the 30 RPS example. Detecting phase shifts in 160 ns chunks is a piece of cake, in fact you could probably go down another order of magnitude. All I know is that I can track a radial on a VOR to the degree, and that thing also uses an antenna that's spinning at 1800 RPM ... AND you have all sorts of variables like RF propagation. It seems that with light, good design and controlled conditions (all of which you can provide) one should be able to do at least a thousand times better. On the other hand, I have a cat that always seems to sleeping on the sunroom sofa whenever a major quake occurs around the world. Maybe I can put that to good use... Tom On Tue, 29 May 2001 17:04:18 EDT ChrisAtUpw@....... writes: > In a message dated 29/05/01, twleiper@........ writes: > > > All this talk about precision matching and ambient light, > > spectral response, etc., seems crazy. If you really must use > > a photographic system (without film on a drum) why take > > > > Dear Tom, > > Was anyone talking about photographic techniques? We were > considering > the precautions / choices necessary to get optical detection methods > to work > OK for very small movements. How would your method cope with > movements from 1 > sec of arc down to maybe 1/100 sec of arc? I would be very > interested to read > your calculations. > > Regards, > > Chris Chapman > > __________________________________________________________ Public Seismic Network Mailing List (PSN-L)
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