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Subject: RE: concrete piers
From: steve hammond shammon1@.............
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:20:37 -0800
Hi Ian,
Dr. Bob Uhrhammer lectured on this point at a PSN meeting at Berkeley a few
years ago. It has been awhile, however I remember a few of his key points.
The key point in the paragraph is "the affect that the pier might have on
response of the earth or the seismometer." Bob's point was to keep the
local noise as low as possible while still providing a platform to mount
the system. He talked about an ideal broadband station in Northern
California that was at the bottom of an old mine in the mountains. He said
that it was an extremely quite site and because of it, they were able to
study the impact of temperature changes and barometric presser changes on
the enclosure design. The insulation seen in the photos in the Berkeley
document you referenced are a result of this type of study.
With regard to the 4 inch gap. The 4 inch gap is to reduce noise that could
be communicated into the pad / device from the outer case or ground around
the mounting block. Bob took the group down into the basement seismic
vaults at the Berkeley Lab and showed us several very large blocks of
cement 5Wx4Hx8L-feet or there about that Berkeley uses to place their
equipment on. The room were left dark and locked most of the time as you
might expect. These block are isolated from the connecting floor with an
air gap and filled with sand. In that way, a person can walk up to the pad
and adjust the instrument without affecting the performance of the device.
This type of configuration is not new. For example, some of the very early
smoke drum seismographs used this same configuration. The Randhall Museum
in San Francisco still has their pad in the basement of the museum from the
turn of the century. UCSF used it for one of their instruments and the last
time I was there the museum used it for an instrument used in their 1906
exhibit.
For reference, I have pasted my PSN station site photos at
http://pw2.netcom.com/~shammon1/AptosStn.htm into this note. I built my
site after hearing Bob's lecture / discussion and did a few things right
and a few things wrong.
(1) Cement mixture 50/50 sand and Portland cement. -- this was correct.
(2) insulation -- this was correct
(3) Full solid cover protected from the elements. -- The house and side
fence shield the box. There is a tin roof over the site. -- this was
correct.
(3) I tried to incorporate an air gap but had very limited space were the
seismograph had to be installed and ended up with more problems then I
expected. I initially built a pier block 1x1x2D-feet with a 3-inch air gap
around the side walls of the pad which I filled with sand and then poured a
slab around it. This resulted in the seismometer base being bolted to the
pad and the magnet / coil located out over and on the slab -- this was
incorrect. It caused very erratic results. I failed to think this through
properly. The pads need to include room for all the components of the
seismograph. Because of the limitation of space, I had to give up the air
gap and went with a bigger pier with more mass. As you can see in the
photos of my station, I came back and removed all the sand and clay under
the slab and poured more cement removing the air gap. The device is
sensitive to walk-up walk-away noise but I have been having good results
with the design now that I fixed the two independent slabs to be united.
Regards, Steve Hammond PSN San Jose - Aptos
-----Original Message-----
From: ian@........... [SMTP:ian@............
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:20 AM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: concrete piers
having read the article on installing seismometers,
http://www.seismo.berkeley.edu/seismo/bdsn/instrumentation/guidelines.html
,
I'm a little unclear on one aspect and would appreciate some advice.
The article states that a 4 inch gap should be left around the base of the
pier. What about the rest of the pier?
Also, the 4 inch gap seems to be filled with insulation. Won't this cause
the
pier to move with the insulation/surrounding ground?
I'll be building on clay soil. How deep should I go (within reason!) and
are
there any other tips for clay?
TIA
Ian Smith
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