Yes, I bid $1600 on it... Tom On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:51:47 -0500 Jack Iveywrites: Hi all, I'm debating if I want another boat anchor. Do we know what period it is? Does anyone know how to tell this guy to lock the mass for shipping? Also, is anyone bidding on it? Thanks, Jack -----Original Message----- From: meredithlamb [mailto:meredithlamb@.............. Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:19 PM To: psn-l@.............. Subject: Re: Sprengnether 201 Long-Period Vertical Seismometer on EBay Hi everyone, If you want a vertical and more access to seeing the early and clearer "P" wave signals (and others), this might be the machine for you. Horizontals just don't pick up the early quake signals quite as well. With a adequate vault and temperature control, such a instrument (at least for here experience wise), will probably prove to be very dependable for low drift of the mass/boom. The design came out in the 1950's-1960's or thereabouts. I'd suspect that the seller won't adequately prepare it for shipment, especially the boom/mass. When I got mine (many years ago), the pivot hinges were snapped, the cover viewing glass was broken and all the thin diameter jumper signal/damping wires were broken. Relatively minor items to replace/repair. Their could be real serious reason for it being surplus now (?). Potentially the most serious/difficult problem "could" lie with the two coils for damping/signal. If they get thrown around and damaged....their isn't any possible replacements. The coil wire it self can also break over time, due to a manufacturers sudden coil winding speed shift (a type of copper wire stress or stretch knot), which I've noted on acouple coils over time. Luckily they were both on the outside area of the coils, which didn't mean too much unwinding too find. Even in the worst case scenario (no working coils), the frame and "zero length" spring would be enviable to have; let alone the longer period vertical configuration. One "might" have to adopt other damping/signal means. Note the weight of the unpacked instrument (115 pounds), the shipping cost can be potentially higher than the winning bid price. On the other hand, it "might" still be worthwhile to have even with the tacked on costs...the massive solid aluminum frame and parts are usually excellent material. Be prepared to have to work on the brass setscrews (die), and retap the aluminum base setscrew holes due to oxidation, old dried up grease/dirt. The tap and die could cost up to $100, or thereabouts. If you win the bid, I'd suggest that the buyer request that the two mass weights be removed (unscrewed); the boom lock pin installed, and the coil magnets assembly also be removed (gently); and shipped separately, even if it means more cost initially to the buyer. Otherwise; if you can pick it up yourself, and prepare it before moving....that would be the best alternate route. The risks and reward/s are with the buyer of course. Take care, Meredith Larry Cochrane wrote: Hi Everyone, Someone on EBay is selling one. See http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1785642626 I would bid on it but I don't need another sensor right now... -Larry Cochrane Redwood City, PSN Yes, I bid $1600 on it...TomOn Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:51:47 -0500 Jack Ivey <ivey@..........> writes:Hi=20 all,I'm=20 debating if I want another boat anchor. Do= we know what=20 period it is?Does=20 anyone know how to tell this guy to lock the mass for=20 shipping?Also, is anyone bidding on it?Thanks,Jack-----Original Message-----Hi everyone,=20
From: meredithlamb=20 [mailto:meredithlamb@..............
Sent: Saturday, November = 09,=20 2002 10:19 PM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: Re:= =20 Sprengnether 201 Long-Period Vertical Seismometer on=20 EBayIf you want a vertical and more access to seeing the early
and=20 clearer "P" wave signals (and others), this might be the
machine = for=20 you. Horizontals just don't pick up the early quake
signals = quite=20 as well.=20With a adequate vault and temperature control, such a
instrument= (at=20 least for here experience wise), will probably
prove to be very=20 dependable for low drift of the mass/boom.
The design came out in = the=20 1950's-1960's or thereabouts.=20I'd suspect that the seller won't adequately prepare it for
= shipment,=20 especially the boom/mass. When I got mine
(many years ago), = the=20 pivot hinges were snapped, the cover viewing
glass was broken and = all=20 the thin diameter jumper signal/damping
wires were broken. =20 Relatively minor items to replace/repair.
Their could be real = serious=20 reason for it being surplus now (?).=20Potentially the most serious/difficult problem "could" lie with the= =20
two coils for damping/signal. If they get thrown around and=20
damaged....their isn't any possible replacements. The
= coil=20 wire it self can also break over time, due to a manufacturers
= sudden=20 coil winding speed shift (a type of copper wire stress or
stretch=20 knot), which I've noted on acouple coils over time.
Luckily = they=20 were both on the outside area of the coils, which
didn't mean too = much=20 unwinding too find.=20Even in the worst case scenario (no working coils), the frame
= and=20 "zero length" spring would be enviable to have; let alone the
= longer=20 period vertical configuration. One "might" have to adopt
= other=20 damping/signal means.=20Note the weight of the unpacked instrument (115 pounds), the
= shipping=20 cost can be potentially higher than the winning bid price.
On the = other=20 hand, it "might" still be worthwhile to have even with
the tacked = on=20 costs...the massive solid aluminum frame and parts
are usually = excellent=20 material.=20Be prepared to have to work on the brass setscrews (die), and
= retap=20 the aluminum base setscrew holes due to oxidation, old
dried up=20 grease/dirt. The tap and die could cost up to $100,
or=20 thereabouts.=20If you win the bid, I'd suggest that the buyer request that the
= two=20 mass weights be removed (unscrewed); the boom lock pin
installed, = and=20 the coil magnets assembly also be removed (gently);
and shipped=20 separately, even if it means more cost initially to the
buyer. = ;=20 Otherwise; if you can pick it up yourself, and prepare it
before=20 moving....that would be the best alternate route. The
risks = and=20 reward/s are with the buyer of course.=20Take care, Meredith=20
Larry Cochrane wrote:=20
Hi Everyone,=20Someone on EBay is selling one. See
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D= 1785642626=20I would bid on it but I don't need another sensor right now...=20
-Larry Cochrane
Redwood City, PSN=20