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Subject: Re: Seismic intrusion detectors part 2
From: "Michael King" Mike@........................
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 22:47:47 -0700
I would really like a way to reach this person. thank you.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David H. Youden=20
To: psn-l@.................
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: Seismic intrusion detectors part 2
Mr. King
Are you aware that the National Institute of Science and Technology =
http://www.nist.gov has a mechanical engineering laboratory (MEL) which, =
in turn has a sensor laboratory studying exactly the subject of your =
question? The laboratory chief, E. Clayton Teague is a friend of mine, =
and I suggest that you get in touch with him. They are working with =
intrusion sensors that are smaller than a cigarette pack, have multiple =
sensors, and are networked via, I think 2.4 GHz radio. The idea is to =
spread a bunch of these along a trail and watch for intruders. If you =
need Clayton's e-mail address, and it's not on the website, please ask =
me.
Dave...
At 10:02 AM 4/9/03 -0700, you wrote:
Here is the overall design.
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The sensor consists of (2) geophones. They are places aprox. 30-40 =
feet apart on a known trail that illegals use.=20
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The prototypes we are using have (2) LT1677 opamp circuits that =
amplify the geophone outputs and feed the signal into a basic stamp 1. =
The level of signal isn't converted to digital, the signal when large =
enough (about 1.67 volts) will drive the input pin high and thus we have =
a logic switch.
=20
In order to limit false hits the software in the basic stamp listens =
for a hit on a geophone. When there is a hit it basically says if the =
second geopghone is hit within the next 2 seconds cancel the entire hit =
becuase it is most likely rain or some other seismic disturbance. If =
the gephone is hit after that to seconds the it is a real hit and send a =
signal back to us through our repeater. The data coming to us tells us =
what "port" hit first and what sensor it is. By knowing what port was =
hit first we can tell what direction the contact is going. =20
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During initial powerup we callibrate the instrument by "walking the =
line" or walking by both geophones. By doing this and counting the =
number of footfalls on an average man we can the have a rudimentary =
counting of the number of people walking by. By dividing the number of =
detected footfall by the number of detected footfalls in the calibration =
we have the number of intruders. It all works but the noisy circuit is =
killing me.
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This system works but our circuit is noisy and when I make the =
software just send hits on either geophone as they come in, sometimes, =
at random, one or both of the "ports" will show hits for minutes on =
end. If I touch the circuit board with my finger i can kill the noise =
until some kind of seismic activity start the noise again.
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Michael S. King
Technical Director
American Border Patrol
I would really like a way to reach this =
person. thank you.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 =
3:06=20
AM
Subject: Re: Seismic intrusion =
detectors=20
part 2
Mr. King
Are you aware that the National =
Institute of=20
Science and Technology http://www.nist.gov has a mechanical =
engineering=20
laboratory (MEL) which, in turn has a sensor laboratory studying =
exactly the=20
subject of your question? The laboratory chief, E. Clayton Teague is a =
friend=20
of mine, and I suggest that you get in touch with him. They are =
working with=20
intrusion sensors that are smaller than a cigarette pack, have =
multiple=20
sensors, and are networked via, I think 2.4 GHz radio. The idea is to =
spread a=20
bunch of these along a trail and watch for intruders. If you need =
Clayton's=20
e-mail address, and it's not on the website, please ask=20
me.
Dave...
At 10:02 AM 4/9/03 -0700, you =
wrote:
Here is=20
the overall design.
The sensor=20
consists of (2) geophones. They are places aprox. 30-40 feet =
apart on=20
a known trail that illegals use.
The prototypes we are using have (2) LT1677 opamp circuits =
that=20
amplify the geophone outputs and feed the signal into a basic stamp =
1. =20
The level of signal isn't converted to digital, the signal when =
large enough=20
(about 1.67 volts) will drive the input pin high and thus we have a =
logic=20
switch.
In order to =
limit false=20
hits the software in the basic stamp listens for a hit on a =
geophone. =20
When there is a hit it basically says if the second geopghone is hit =
within=20
the next 2 seconds cancel the entire hit becuase it is most likely =
rain or=20
some other seismic disturbance. If the gephone is hit after =
that to=20
seconds the it is a real hit and send a signal back to us through =
our=20
repeater. The data coming to us tells us what "port" hit first =
and=20
what sensor it is. By knowing what port was hit first we can =
tell what=20
direction the contact is going.
During initial powerup we callibrate the instrument by =
"walking the=20
line" or walking by both geophones. By doing this and counting =
the=20
number of footfalls on an average man we can the have a rudimentary =
counting=20
of the number of people walking by. By dividing the number of =
detected=20
footfall by the number of detected footfalls in the calibration we =
have the=20
number of intruders. It all works but the noisy circuit is =
killing=20
me.
This system =
works but our=20
circuit is noisy and when I make the software just send hits on =
either=20
geophone as they come in, sometimes, at random, one or both of =
the=20
"ports" will show hits for minutes on end. If I touch the =
circuit=20
board with my finger i can kill the noise until some kind of seismic =
activity start the noise=20
again.
Michael S. King
Technical Director
American Border=20
Patrol
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