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Subject: Re: feasible maximum mass for a Lehman seismometer
From: "Connie and Jim Lehman" lehmancj@...........
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:12:39 -0400
T.Dick--thanks for your inquiry. I can only comment on the original =
design and how we arrived at the mass. The first model had a boom of =
140 cm and a mass of 4kg or about 9 lbs.--empirical all the way. Those =
early Jesuit "cantilever" systems used much heavier masses, as they were =
friction linked to give a mechanical readout on smoked paper, but later =
, a reflected beam of light on photographic paper reduced the need for =
such a heavy mass.
The mass is related to the natural period of swing somewhat--(even =
though different masses of a bob on a free hanging pendulum makes little =
difference in period). More important--the mass must be =
supported...The support wire at the angle with horizontal suggested must =
be strong. If you do the arithmetic, a 5 lb mass will tug a tension of =
between 30 & 40 lbs on the upright hinge area when the angle is 30-40 =
degrees. ((Now if you want a real puzzle. As that angle goes to zero, =
the tension approaches infinity))
When we made the final design as published, a 5 lb mass was suggested =
as 5 lb "bricks" of lead were available. We reduced the boom to fit =
everything under a 1 meter box. The physical sensor worked so well with =
set up procedure, stability and performance we haven't deviated from =
those parameters. That is not saying other parameters won't work. With =
care no doubt the physical size of the "Lehman" could be halved, but =
instabilites no doubt would frustrate the user.
On a bit of related technology. Several years ago we built a =
portable Foucault pendulum on a 4-ft tripod, drove it magnetically from =
below, and achieved 5% accuracy. We thought this was pretty neat, until =
a gentleman from Michigan built a good working model about 12 inches =
high.
One never quite knows where the empirical approach in mechanical =
devices take one!! Best Wishes--Jim Lehman
----- Original Message -----=20
From: tdick=20
To: psn-l@.................
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: feasible maximum mass for a Lehman seismometer
At the risk of ruining a good discussion going on the last couple of =
days -- I would like to have some input on what the best/maximum mass =
for Lehman horizontal seismometer
T.Dick--thanks for your inquiry. =
I can only=20
comment on the original design and how we arrived at the mass. The =
first=20
model had a boom of 140 cm and a mass of 4kg or about 9 lbs.--empirical =
all the=20
way. Those early Jesuit "cantilever" systems used much heavier =
masses, as=20
they were friction linked to give a mechanical readout on smoked paper, =
but=20
later , a reflected beam of light on photographic paper reduced the need =
for=20
such a heavy mass.
The mass is related =
to the=20
natural period of swing somewhat--(even though different masses of a bob =
on a=20
free hanging pendulum makes little difference in period). =
More=20
important--the mass must be supported...The support wire at the angle =
with=20
horizontal suggested must be strong. If you do the arithmetic, a 5 =
lb mass=20
will tug a tension of between 30 & 40 lbs on the upright hinge =
area=20
when the angle is 30-40 degrees. ((Now if you want a real =
puzzle. As=20
that angle goes to zero, the tension approaches infinity))
When we made the final =
design as=20
published, a 5 lb mass was suggested as 5 lb "bricks" of lead were=20
available. We reduced the boom to fit everything under a 1 meter=20
box. The physical sensor worked so well with set up procedure, =
stability=20
and performance we haven't deviated from those parameters. That is =
not=20
saying other parameters won't work. With care no doubt the =
physical size=20
of the "Lehman" could be halved, but instabilites no doubt would =
frustrate the=20
user.
On a bit of related=20
technology. Several years ago we built a portable Foucault =
pendulum on a=20
4-ft tripod, drove it magnetically from below, and achieved 5%=20
accuracy. We thought this was pretty neat, until a gentleman from =
Michigan=20
built a good working model about 12 inches high.
One never quite knows =
where the=20
empirical approach in mechanical devices take one!! Best =
Wishes--Jim=20
Lehman
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
tdick
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 =
9:09 PM
Subject: feasible maximum mass =
for a=20
Lehman seismometer
At the risk of ruining a good =
discussion going on=20
the last couple of days -- I would like to have some input on what the =
best/maximum mass for Lehman horizontal=20
seismometer
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