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Subject: Re: Thermal Control for Sensors
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:49:30 EST
In a message dated 16/11/2007, gpayton880@....... writes:
I am searching for wiring details for using Aluminum Housed Wirewound Power
Resistors used for thermal control inside an insulated housing for the
seismic sensors. It has been suggested wiring several such resistors in series to
accomplish a 10-30 watts from the 110v AC house supply source. I'm a little
leery about the house current for safety reasons and possible AC hum.
Hi Jerry,
Put a sheet of Al inside the top of the box, bolt the resistors to it
and earth the sheet. There should be no problems. The Al sheet spreads the heat
over the top of the inside of the case and keeps the resistors cool. What
you definitely DON'T want is a very hot resistor generating a heat plume which
stirs up the rest of the air.
You can buy a digital electronic thermometer with two sensors for about
$20 See Extech from Mouser. One sensor is on an extension lead. You put this
inside the top of the case / on the seismometer and leave the thermometer
case in the air outside. Radioshack also sell thermometers, but don't get a
radio one. They may not work all that well from inside an Al screened box.
In studying the Mouser Electronics catalog, I can find several possible
configurations using one to several resistors in series. The resistors specify
their wattage capability, but have different resistance values to choose from.
I would be inclined to use Arcol 10 W resistors in parallel. 2.2K at
110V = 5.5W, 1.5K at 110V = 8W You will certainly need at least 5 W for a Lehman
size case, probably quite a lot more.
I recommend the use of an electronic Max/Min thermometer. The conditions
vary so much between locations that you need to actually measure of what is
happening inside your box. If you can't get adequate regulation - there are
still large temperature variations - try folding a single large sheet of
bubblewrap over the whole case with the bubbles on the inside. You may need to put
the extension sensor on the ground under the seismometer to check the actual
ground variations. You can also put polystyrene sheet over the ground for a
foot or more outside the seismometer case to reduce ground temperature
variations - the seismometer then follows the subsoil temperature more closely.
Regards,
Chris Chapman
In a message dated 16/11/2007, gpayton880@....... writes:
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Hi Jerry,
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generating a heat plume which stirs up the rest of the air.
You can buy a digital electronic thermometer wi=
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lead. You put this inside the top of the case / on the seismometer and leave=
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resistors specify their wattage capability, but have different resist=
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I would be inclined to use Arcol 10 W resistors=
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parallel. 2.2K at 110V =3D 5.5W, 1.5K at 110V =3D 8W You will certainly need=
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least 5 W for a Lehman size case, probably quite a lot more.
I recommend the use of an electronic Max/Min=20
thermometer. The conditions vary so much between locations that you need to=20
actually measure of what is happening inside your box. If you can't get adeq=
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regulation - there are still large temperature variations - try folding=
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single large sheet of bubblewrap over the whole case with the bubbles on the=
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inside. You may need to put the extension sensor on the ground under the=20
seismometer to check the actual ground variations. You can also put=20
polystyrene sheet over the ground for a foot or more outside the=20
seismometer case to reduce ground temperature variations - the=20
seismometer then follows the subsoil temperature more closely.
Regards,
Chris Chapman
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