Thanks a million Meredith. I will buy a couple of them this weekend and = give it a try. BTW, the thread between You, Dick and Chris was = extremely helpful in causing me to rethink my situation involving my = vertical. I had just assumed that it was all stock until I read you = guys exchanges. I am much appreciative to all of you. James Allen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: meredith lamb=20 To: psn-l@................. Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER Hi James, My wild Imagination says it might even be tough baling wire (ha); but = of course I don't really know. Heres another flat hinge spring source material scenario you could = consider (assuming you will replace such). It involves automotive and/or machinist feeler/thickness gauge sets. I've not = actually checked; but one could assume the likelyhood that chains like Autozone, etc., will have these readily on hand. = They usually come in ~ muliple sizes "leaves" of different size thicknesses (usually marked thereon with the size thickness = thereon). They are stacked and anchored at one end, and can be extended outward per each size. They range ~ from one thousandth or = so inch thick upward to roughly 20 thousandth of a inch thick. I think they are usually cheap per each set; I just saw = Amazon.com, with sellers offering such at around $3.60...but the sticker is; the high ~$6 shipping. Obviously if you = buy locally, its alot cheaper. Anyway, you would need two sets of such to get two same sizes of whatever you use. Drill out = the rivot anchor/s, and then you have all manner of sizes to explore as hinges for your vertical. Of course; nowadays, they could = also be marked as metric, or even both ways thereon. Actually, I think they are tougher and much less prone to "aquiring" = accidental bent areas in them, than phosphur bronze or even tempered blue spring stock/coil/shim. You will still have to use a = hand shear tool and reduce the widths; and a followup hand file to get rid of the burrs along the cut edge. I suppose they could be rather a ideal thickness variety set for any = amateur seeking to build their own vertical hinges.=20 What size to initially try/use (?)....my guess is anything between = 0.005 and 0.010' thick. You might anticipate that your present wire probably gouged into the = aluminum clamp surfaces. Check and lightly file it flat if necessary. Take care, Meredith =20 On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, JAMES ALLEN= wrote: Hello Meredith, Dick, Chris I rechecked the wire hinges coming from = mine. I do not have a micrometer, but there is one wire per hinge = (black) which is relatively rough and not shinny like piano wire but = just as springy. I suppose it is steel wire and smaller in diameter = than that used for a paper clip. Now, I am beginning to under stand = that this must not be original to the unit and should be a flat flexible = hinge instead. Perhaps that is the reason I have been having so much = trouble getting the seismometer boom to remain centered. =20 James Allen Thanks a million Meredith. I will = buy a=20 couple of them this weekend and give it a try. BTW, the thread = between=20 You, Dick and Chris was extremely helpful in causing me to rethink my = situation=20 involving my vertical. I had just assumed that it was all stock = until I=20 read you guys exchanges. I am much appreciative to all of=20 you.James Allen= BODY>----- Original Message -----From:=20 meredith lambSent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 = 10:45=20 AMSubject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 = LONG PERIOD=20 VERTICAL SEISMOMETERHi James,
My wild Imagination says it might even = be tough=20 baling wire (ha); but of course I don't really know.
Heres = another flat=20 hinge spring source material scenario you could consider (assuming you = will=20 replace such). It involves
automotive and/or machinist=20 feeler/thickness gauge sets. I've not actually checked; but one = could=20 assume the likelyhood
that chains like Autozone, etc., will have = these=20 readily on hand. They usually come in ~ muliple sizes "leaves" = of=20 different
size thicknesses (usually marked thereon with the size = thickness=20 thereon). They are stacked and anchored at one end, and can=20 be
extended outward per each size. They range ~ from one = thousandth=20 or so inch thick upward to roughly 20 thousandth of
a inch = thick. I=20 think they are usually cheap per each set; I just saw Amazon.com, with = sellers=20 offering such at around
$3.60...but the sticker is; the high ~$6=20 shipping. Obviously if you buy locally, its alot cheaper. = Anyway,=20 you would need
two sets of such to get two same sizes of whatever = you=20 use. Drill out the rivot anchor/s, and then you have all manner = of sizes=20 to
explore as hinges for your vertical. Of course; nowadays, = they=20 could also be marked as metric, or even both ways = thereon.
Actually, I=20 think they are tougher and much less prone to "aquiring" accidental = bent areas=20 in them, than phosphur bronze or even
tempered blue spring = stock/coil/shim.=20 You will still have to use a hand shear tool and reduce the = widths; and=20 a followup hand file
to get rid of the burrs along the cut = edge.
I=20 suppose they could be rather a ideal thickness variety set for any = amateur=20 seeking to build their own vertical hinges.
What size to = initially=20 try/use (?)....my guess is anything between 0.005 and 0.010' = thick.
You=20 might anticipate that your present wire probably gouged into the = aluminum=20 clamp surfaces. Check and lightly file it flat=20 if
necessary.
Take care, Meredith
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, JAMES ALLEN = <jcallen1@...........> = wrote:
Hello Meredith, Dick, Chris I = rechecked=20 the wire hinges coming from mine. I do not have a micrometer, = but=20 there is one wire per hinge (black) which is relatively rough and = not shinny=20 like piano wire but just as springy. I suppose it is steel = wire and=20 smaller in diameter than that used for a paper clip. Now, I am = beginning to under stand that this must not be original to the unit = and=20 should be a flat flexible hinge instead. Perhaps that is the = reason I=20 have been having so much trouble getting the seismometer boom to = remain=20 centered.James Allen