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Subject: AmaSeis question
From: "Ted Channel" tchannel@............
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:55:23 -0600


Well here is a mystery.........I have used AmaSeis for years, thought I =
understood it completely, but I can't figure this out.

With everything set up and running normally, I unplugged a fully =
operation sensor, working perfectly.

I hooked up a coil and magnet, not a sensor, but just a coil and magnet =
balanced.  No surprises, the helicorder showed the trace above and below =
the line, when the magnet was moved.
At this point, again everything looked normal.   The AmaSeis trace =
numbers (show data values) would bounce from +100 to -100, so far so =
good.   However as the movement stopped, and the magnets/coil stopped =
moving, the (show data values) settled in to record just background =
numbers.   As an examples, +10 to -18,  BUT the negative number would =
never go lower than -18. Unless I touched the device.

I recorded 30 mins of background noise.  Everything above the line (+) =
look normal, you could see all the normal variations  up and down, up =
and down.  Below the AmaSeis trace line (negative numbers) all the marks =
were clipped at about -18.

To make this more interesting, I copied this 30 mins trace and opened it =
in Winquake.......There to my surprise, when viewing the (data points) =
it showed that it contained all the + and all the - count, showing no =
clipping at all.

After uninstalling AmaSeis, and trying 10 other things, nothing =
corrected the problem.   Plugged in the original sensor and the clipping =
was gone.  Plugged in the problem coil and magnet and the problem was =
back.

More interesting still, once I turn on the AmaSeis filter 1-20 seconds =
the clipping disappeared.

I am using data Q194.   In AmaSeis I tried different device setting, =
gains, all that stuff, and nothing corrected the helicorder but applying =
the filters.

I have no ideas............If I use the filter settings in AmaSeis for =
this new device there is no problem, it all looks 100% normal and =
recorded every footstep up and below the trace line.   If I remove the =
filter the negative clipping on the helicorder returns.










Well here is a mystery.........I have = used AmaSeis=20 for years, thought I understood it completely, but I can't figure this=20 out.
 
With everything set up and running = normally, I=20 unplugged a fully operation sensor, working perfectly.
 
I hooked up a coil and magnet, not a = sensor, but=20 just a coil and magnet balanced.  No surprises, the helicorder = showed=20 the trace above and below the line, when the magnet was = moved.
At this point, again everything looked=20 normal.   The AmaSeis trace numbers (show data = values) would=20 bounce from +100 to -100, so far so good.   However as the = movement=20 stopped, and the magnets/coil stopped moving, the (show data values) = settled in=20 to record just background numbers.   As an examples, +10 to = -18, =20 BUT the negative number would never go lower than -18. Unless I touched = the=20 device.
 
I recorded 30 mins of background = noise. =20 Everything above the line (+) look normal, you could see all the normal=20 variations  up and down, up and down.  Below the AmaSeis trace = line=20 (negative numbers) all the marks were clipped at about -18.
 
To make this more interesting, I copied = this 30=20 mins trace and opened it in Winquake.......There to my surprise, when = viewing=20 the (data points) it showed that it contained all the + and all the - = count,=20 showing no clipping at all.
 
After uninstalling AmaSeis, and trying = 10 other=20 things, nothing corrected the problem.   Plugged in the = original=20 sensor and the clipping was gone.  Plugged in the problem coil and = magnet=20 and the problem was back.
 
More interesting still, once I turn on = the AmaSeis=20 filter 1-20 seconds the clipping disappeared.
 
I am using data Q194.   In = AmaSeis I=20 tried different device setting, gains, all that stuff, and nothing = corrected the=20 helicorder but applying the filters.
 
I have no ideas............If I use the = filter=20 settings in AmaSeis for this new device there is no problem, it all = looks 100%=20 normal and recorded every footstep up and below the trace = line.   If I=20 remove the filter the negative clipping on the helicorder = returns.
 
 
 
Thanks, Ted

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